MY FRIEND RACIALLY PROFILED AND SHOT BY COPS

[HEADHONCHO11]

if you look into the details, you find out that the cop didn't have a lot of justification for shooting the suspect, as far as I can tell. Plus the police aren't that popular here (for good reasons) and I don't think people in general like to hear about the police shooting drunken scooter riders.
It's not the usual 'foreigner bad' news that sells, well at least I think so.

I don't know the details, but there should be a borderline case for lawsuit against the police for excessive force, it of course depends on the details and there is a lack of witnesses.

[serial killer on parole]

if you look into the details, you find out that the cop didn't have a lot of justification for shooting the suspect, as far as I can tell. Plus the police aren't that popular here (for good reasons) and I don't think people in general like to hear about the police shooting drunken scooter riders.
It's not the usual 'foreigner bad' news that sells, well at least I think so.

I don't know the details, but there should be a borderline case for lawsuit against the police for excessive force, it of course depends on the details and there is a lack of witnesses.

So here you admit you don't know any of the details but think the cops should be sued for excessive force. What about the excessive force the thug made when he attacked the cop? I guess that doesn't count?

As you said, you don't know the details but I bet the cops do and so does Big 100kg John. So as far as you can tell means nothing here but wild speculation about nothing.

[over_active_moderator]

if you look into the details, you find out that the cop didn't have a lot of justification for shooting the suspect, as far as I can tell. Plus the police aren't that popular here (for good reasons) and I don't think people in general like to hear about the police shooting drunken scooter riders.
It's not the usual 'foreigner bad' news that sells, well at least I think so.

I don't know the details, but there should be a borderline case for lawsuit against the police for excessive force, it of course depends on the details and there is a lack of witnesses.

One of the main supporters of Zain Dean is now suggesting that the latest twit to run afoul of the laws is also the victim rather than the perpetrator of his crimes. Colour me shocked!

Yet another middle-aged man out on pub crawls and drink driving like a nineteen-year-old. That alone is an embarrassment. Then add the 10km high-speed chase and fighting with police--utterly shameful behaviour! But there are still some, obviously, who would try to pin it on "da man," as if police are to blame for what happened, rather than their friend's ridiculous behaviour. Some people confuse their ages with their shoe sizes. The only thing excessive was the perpetrator's actions-- from the sheer amount of alcohol a man in his mid forties consumed, to his stupid decision to ride a motorcycle, to the reckless high-speed attempt to flee, and finally to the physical confrontation with armed police. Who the hell thinks this kind of thing is normal? Who the hell blames police for their handling of such stupidity? Seriously, could you see that kind of behaviour being condoned by mature adults in the west? Only here, where expats are stuck in perpetual adolescence, is that kind of thing condoned. Why are there so many seemingly middle-aged teenagers in Taiwan?

[LORD LUCAN]

feiren wrote: It's not a big deal for the media or general public. There have been at least 10 other stories in the last week about people driving while intoxicated. To make the news for this, you have to behave badly or kill someone. Usually the latter. Nobody cares but us. The papers and TV news are full of these kinds of stories and people pay attention for about 10 seconds.

How many of those others were shot by the police? I think that's what makes this one different.

People run away from the police here all the time. Normally they don't get shot during the arrest procedure. Some do. I remember the bloke they opened fire on discharging 57 rounds at point-blank range and only 3 hit him. He was however a known gangster who always carried a gun himself.

At the end of the day, it's all speculation. It was one on one with no witnesses. Cop claims he was attacked and had to shoot to protect his life. Cop, is however, suspiciously unmarked for a man who's just come from a life-and-death fight. Some will believe the cop. Some won't.

[KTVDRIVER]

How many of those others were shot by the police? I think that's what makes this one different.

How many of "those" were huge tanks of men who assaulted police and couldn't be stopped, even after being hit so many times by a metal nightstick that it bent?

People run away from the police here all the time.

Does that make it right? He wasn't shot for the fleeing anyway. You conveniently leave out the assault bit.

Normally they don't get shot during the arrest procedure.

Normally suspects can be brought under control with lesser degrees of force. And, again, normally suspects don't attack police.

At the end of the day, it's all speculation. It was one on one with no witnesses. Cop claims he was attacked and had to shoot to protect his life. Cop, is however, suspiciously unmarked for a man who's just come from a life-and-death fight. Some will believe the cop. Some won't.

Bullshit. The chase was caught on video. The BAC is concrete evidence of the intoxication. The bent nightstick and the marks on the police officer's body are evidence of the struggle. It's very far from "speculation." You are just trying to confuse the issue to make your friend's outrageous actions look less serious, and cast doubt onto the police's actions in this case.

[BLACKCRUSADER]

I don't buy the assault. The prisoner is very highly trained. His restraint in not assaulting the cop is a result of that training. Had he chosen to engage the cop, the cop would be in serious schtook

So Lord Lucan your friend is a highly trained weapon in unarmed combat. To bad he turned up to a gun fight.

Your friend in so highly trained in unarmed combat, outweighed the cop by a good 40kg plus, then the cop seems even more justified for shooting him in the leg to bring the brutal attack by your friend on the police officer to an end. I applaud the cop for bring down such a dangerous man who was willing to risk the lives of other road users to a stop.

[Deuce Eater]

How many of those others were shot by the police? I think that's what makes this one different.

People run away from the police here all the time. Normally they don't get shot during the arrest procedure. Some do. I remember the bloke they opened fire on discharging 57 rounds at point-blank range and only 3 hit him. He was however a known gangster who always carried a gun himself.

At the end of the day, it's all speculation. It was one on one with no witnesses. Cop claims he was attacked and had to shoot to protect his life. Cop, is however, suspiciously unmarked for a man who's just come from a life-and-death fight. Some will believe the cop. Some won't.

I agree. The shooting makes it very different.

Who said it was a life and death fight? He ( the cop ) had the right to shoot if he felt his life was in danger. Those things aren't the same. If the cop was wearing body armor, which I seem to recall the scooter cops do, he wouldn't be marked up all that much. And what? You want him to strip and search for bruises? How about the accused? Are you at all interested in his bac, because THAT surely is not speculation and can be scientifically proven, unless Taiwanese scientists are just as incompetent as you think the cops are. ? Or is this just a one way street for you? I mean you seem to know he was "pissed". You don't want to know how pissed he was? I sure do. If it's what they initially reported, it totally changes the way I and others view his recklessness.

I'd like to see the results of the blood tests they most probably took when he got to the hospital. And I hear there's another video out there as well.

[OMNI]

If John has any conscience, he must be finding it hard to sleep soundly at night. If he has any conscience.

[Bismarck]

1. At this point they should know his nationality. Therefore, why not refer to him as an American, Canadian, South African or whatever?
2. If their reporting is really that shite that they didn't know his nationality, why refer to him as a Laowai? How do they know he's a foreigner? Law of averages? Because he's white? Pretty much still an ignorant assumption then, verging on racist profiling imo. He's 46, he could have been living here for 20+ years. He could be a naturalized Taiwanese. He could be a born and bred Taiwanese, but who looks white like my son and several other Eurasian Taiwanese kids I've seen here.

Point is, he could be anything. Either they know, or they don't. But why keep hammering out the "laowais"?

Remember the "Chink in the Armor" stink re Jeremy Lin? Guy lost his job over that, even though it's a legitimate term referring to a weakness, but the conclusion was reached that the guy was being racist because Jeremy is of Asian extraction.
However, what if the newspapers in the west refer to all and any Asian looking person in the news, or anywhere for that matter, as Oriental?
How does the headline "Fat Drunk Oriental Resists Arrest" sound? Bet that shit wouldn't fly in the US, even if it was printed by a shit rag the likes of Apple Daily.

[TEMPER GAIN]

You would not believe the shitstorm that would ensue.