MY FRIEND RACIALLY PROFILED AND SHOT BY COPS

Re: MY FRIEND RACIALLY PROFILED AND SHOT BY COPS

Postby chewycorns » Thu Aug 22, 2013 11:56 am

Many people weren't so forgiving of bad behaviour when it involved drug trafficking (e.g., Forand case). Whether it is driving under the influence or pushing drugs, it is both a danger to public safety is it not?

Can totally understanding sticking by a friend (who has behaved poorly) but people don't seem as outraged by this behaviour as with people getting arrested for drug trafficking in the past. Both are equally dangerous but many people have shown varying and differing degrees of outrage based or their level of connection with the person.

I enjoyed the posts of the member---seems like an interesting person (never met him during my years in Taiwan). But I can say that in either case (drug or alcohol news stories involving foreigners), I've always thought it was a huge error in judgement. People make mistakes and hopefully they learn from them without the state being too punitive in its sentence.
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Re: MY FRIEND RACIALLY PROFILED AND SHOT BY COPS

Postby MAOMAN » Thu Aug 22, 2013 11:57 am

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If he was discussed in a public forum, I would keep a low profile. I would not try to defend anything, as it's indefensible.


No one is defending him. The legal support is to make sure that he can get legal counsel he can communicate with and to make sure that legal procedure is being strictly adhered to by all parties. Already his lawyer has proven to be very useful in correcting small errors in translation when the accused was making his statement. This is surely a good thing, right?
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Re: MY FRIEND RACIALLY PROFILED AND SHOT BY COPS

Postby THE HULK » Thu Aug 22, 2013 11:59 am

MAOMAN wrote:Well as you know I also banned you on my site becuase you posted the real picture of Chris Churcher, who sold his passport to help Zain Dean escape.

All these people are my good friends. I can't help it a lot of my good friends are known expat criminals. John is one of my closest criminal friends. I can't have people going around besmirching my good name just because of the people I associate with. Also I think is very wrong of your site to post peoples real names. We can't have that. It's not right, and it hurts the criminals involved to be publicly outed.

I want to sue you but I dont have enough money to sue as I havent paid back all the people I loaned money from yet.


The ones you associate with show who you are, actually.

If you look at peoples friends, they tell you a lot about who they are.
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Re: MY FRIEND RACIALLY PROFILED AND SHOT BY COPS

Postby BLACKCRUSADER » Thu Aug 22, 2013 12:02 pm

MAOMAN wrote:I want to sue you but I dont have enough money to sue as I havent paid back all the people I loaned money from yet.


Well Tony when we met at Capones you were moaning to me that you had talked to some lawyers about suing. Only one problem, what you write on forums isnt copyright protected and as YOU cannot libel someone for something they themselves wrote on several forums or facebook pages.

You cannot sue of the pictuers used as you lose copyright over them and in anycase Tony, they can all be found on google images which you have no control of.
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Re: MY FRIEND RACIALLY PROFILED AND SHOT BY COPS

Postby REPLICANT » Thu Aug 22, 2013 12:06 pm

MAOMAN wrote:
Hulk wrote:
If he was discussed in a public forum, I would keep a low profile. I would not try to defend anything, as it's indefensible.


No one is defending him. The legal support is to make sure that he can get legal counsel he can communicate with and to make sure that legal procedure is being strictly adhered to by all parties. Already his lawyer has proven to be very useful in correcting small errors in translation when the accused was making his statement. This is surely a good thing, right?


IS he getting his legal support from you then as well Tony? Got any makeup artists and passports for sale?
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Re: MY FRIEND RACIALLY PROFILED AND SHOT BY COPS

Postby CHAON THE SAGE » Thu Aug 22, 2013 12:10 pm

Let's not lose sight of the main issue here. It is obvious that this man's human rights have been violated under the Geneva Convention. We must find a way to get him to Switzerland, because it is a Neutral Country
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Re: MY FRIEND RACIALLY PROFILED AND SHOT BY COPS

Postby BLACKCRUSADER » Thu Aug 22, 2013 1:25 pm

This Guy is Extremely Lucky He's in the 'Wan by Mick » Thu Aug 22, 2013 12:25

This guy is looking at a lot more than a "few months", you will get a few months in Taiwan now for just being arrested for drink driving, when you test above a certain level. Then on top of that he has the act of fleeing from the police. This is for reference from a quick search on the internet, I dont know what additional penalties he faces here. I realize this is not Taiwan law, I dont know what the law is here, it's just for reference only.

The penalty in Minnesota for Fleeing a Police Officer in a Motor Vehicle is up to 3 years and 1 day in jail, as well as a fine of up to $5,000.
In addition, Minnesota may charge a person with DWI for driving, operating, or being in physical control of a vehicle when:

They are under the influence of alcohol, a controlled substance, or a hazardous substance that affects the nervous system, brain, or muscles so as to substantially impair the person's ability to drive or operate the vehicle; and or
They have an alcohol concentration of .08 or more within 2 hours of driving, operating, or being in physical control of a vehicle.

Then something like a 8km chase, perhaps reckless endangerment, apparently resisting arrest, and assaulting a police officer.

That was the contusion to the officers neck. It looks to me to be the type cause by a collar rubbing against the neck in a skirmish. It's a minor injury for sure. Actually, if true, and I have no idea if charges will be filed for this, or if Johns version of events confirm an assault on a police officer, but this offense could carry more weight than all the others combined.

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So my 2 He should not be posting here, or anywhere with regard this matter and be talking to and through a lawyer at all times. Also, and while some of his friends may think they are being helpful, lambasting the police, the court system. Rallying around the individual to demonstrate Taiwanese racism, may have the opposite effect of which you hope for. Of course friends will be there for each other, I respect you all for that, but when it becomes us vs them, it can turn ugly very quickly.


Yes Mick it is very surprising to see Johns friend claiming that the police are racist and they are poorly trained. Big 100kg John assaulted the police and the officer being much a much smaller guy need to get a violent criminal on the ground quickly before he could endanger other peoples lives. The fact that he only used one shot instead of using the whole magazine is testament to this police officers restraint in using his weapon. He is to be applauded for that.

As for what penalty he will eventually receive, I am sure there will be the usual he got a trial by a corrupt police force and corrupt judge coming out by his friends.
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Re: MY FRIEND RACIALLY PROFILED AND SHOT BY COPS

Postby JIMIPRESLEY » Thu Aug 22, 2013 1:42 pm

Thus far I have remained silent on this topic, but no further: It's admirable that blackcrusader sees his adopted "country" in such a fine light. Who ever said that nationalism was dead? I, and many here, love Taiwan as much as you do, blackcrusader. It is quite unnecessary, however, to express your blinkered approach with such fervent nationalistic naivete. Big 100kg John Mc Carty may or may not be guilty. But we do know with assuredness that the police are corrupt. Just because you are a "citizen", doesn't mean you have to assimilate yourself into their web of deceit out of some misplaced loyalty.

I am a good judge of character. And I can smell from 10km away any lies and if Big 100kg John told me he didn't do it I'd believe him even if there is video evidence and he signed a confession. He would only sign under duress.
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Re: MY FRIEND RACIALLY PROFILED AND SHOT BY COPS

Postby THE HULK » Thu Aug 22, 2013 2:27 pm

Great reply, however 2-3 years and then out? I would think that they want him shipped off asap.

Who cares, the end result, he fucked himself up, will get locked up in a very nasty jail, and after that he will be deported, and odds are that they will not let him in until he is around 60.

And - yes talking about racist incompetent cops is not going to go down well with local media or judges. At the end of the day, noboty is doubting that he did a DUI, a runner, and then somehow managed to bend a police baton and then get himself shot.

I have been stopped at many roadside checks. I have several times seen locals standing there next to their car awaiting transport to the hospital presumably for blood testing. I have never seen anyone being hit by a baton or getting shot. I would still think that your behavior has to be extreme, before the local cops resort to such measures to subdue you.
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Re: MY FRIEND RACIALLY PROFILED AND SHOT BY COPS

Postby smurfette » Thu Aug 22, 2013 2:32 pm

JIMIPRESLEY wrote:
I am a good judge of character.


Shall we hold a poll on that?


JIMIPRESLEY wrote: And I can smell from 10km away any lies...


... except your own, or those of your friends. It's like farts, really. Your own smell best.



JIMIPRESLEY wrote: and if Big 100kg John told me he didn't do it I'd believe him even if there is video evidence and he signed a confession. He would only sign under duress.


Kind of conflicts with your above statement regarding lies. So you can smell lies, but you would believe your friend even if there were evidence proving he was lying. How profound and paradoxical of you! Did your friend appear "under duress" in the police chase video? Maybe the camera was under duress.
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