ZAIN DEAN CONVICTED KILLER ON THE LAM

[SANDMAN]

I know I'll take the word of a local judge before I take your word for granted.

U MAD BRO?

Entirely your prerogative. I'll take the word of practically ANYBODY over that of the people stitching up Zain, though. DESPITE my utter conviction of the integrity of the people involved in his prosecution.

Did Zain flee the accident? Given that he had handed over control of the vehicle to another person? The PERSON DRIVING fled the scene, not the passenger. That's the WHOLE FRIGGING POINT of getting someone else to drive for you. The passenger was in no position or condition to have a say one way or the other.
Are you SERIOUSLY suggesting that if I employed a designated driver in the UK, went out and got pissed with me mates, passed out in the car in the way home and the driver hit some bloke and drove away, that EYE would be the one the cops prosecuted? What complete and UTTER shite!
That if I'm some rich bloke who prefers to employ a chauffeur, I'll be prosecuted if he commits a traffic or criminal offence while I happen to be sitting in the car?
That, to me, is what happened to Zain. Followed by the collusion among the KTV boss and the (proven) corrupt Da'an cops. A total stitch-up.

[VAIN DEAN]

What I do know, however, is that Zain Dean has been fucked in the ass by an incompetent legal system. Now, you just carry on expressing your love for Taiwan, respective of the collateral damage it's antiquated, conservative, corrupt legal mechanisms engender. May the Mahjong table be filled with quanxi when next you gun bei with your noble brethren.

I must protest my innocence. The system here wasnt so fucked up they nailed me with mutiple criminal convictions over the years here. It was the last straw calling me a hit and run killer. Too much to bear. I deny it

I cannot remember the accident so it therefor cannot have been me. Even if it was me I must be aquitted because they dont like darker skins like me in Taiwan anymore. I was railroaded. Never mind I tried to destroy the car before I was nicked by some deadbeat retired cop poking his nose into other peoples business.

The people who really got shafted are my girlfriend, who stood by me like the patsy she is and shes likely to end up with a long jail sentence in the name of love, and the dumbfuck guy I pressured into selling me his passport for a bicycle and a few grand. I really like how I told him he'd never face any consequences but he's really fucked now and he won't even see a trial for years. So nice to have friends like these and Sandman and Jimipresley who trust me so much.

Its doesnt matter if I am guilty or not, the courts should never have prosecuted me. Too bad the KTV had evidence showing the driver really was back at the KTV before the accident happened. So inconvenient as I really wanted to pin the blame on him.

[IRON OXIDE LADY]

Its doesnt matter if I am guilty or not, the courts should never have prosecuted me. Too bad the KTV had evidence showing the driver really was back at the KTV before the accident happened. So inconvenient as I really wanted to pin the blame on him.

We all know how easy it is to "fake" evidence in this country.

Most likely it wouldn't matter if the ktv driver was the owner or the guy who sweeps the floor. On my right, a Taiwanese national. On my left, an overpaid*, overbearing* foreigner. Who are you going to support?

I've been involved in legal matters where a single anonymous complaint from a Taiwanese national was enough to put a whole process in motion -- even though the police who searched my home in the first place found f***-all nothing to support the claim that was made.

*adjectives from the minds of the Average Taiwanese who gets paid $22,000 a month and believes all Westerners live like a Hollywood movie.

[SANDMAN]

Yes! I, for one, feel total empathy for the poor bugger who drove drunk, killed a man, got caught disposing of the car, denied everything, refused to apologise, tried to pin it on innocent people, had his friends lie for him online, fled and and left his friend and girlfriend in jail for him.

Aiyo! A mere piddling detail! String him up! The courts have SPOKEN! He was railroaded. He fled because he was railroaded just like his girlfriend and Chris the passport seller will be railroaded by the corrupt system here.

On the other hand, if it were me, and knew I was innocent and that the court shenanigans were a farce, I'd be patting myself on the back for getting out of the whole mess. Thing is, nobody -- not you, not I, CERTAINLY not the courts, CERTAINLY not the cops, CERTAINLY not the so-called "witnesses" and most CERTAINLY of all, not the media, know who did the deed. Despite this, a man got sentenced to jail.
The likes of over active moderrator appear to be content to defer to Taiwan's press and judicial system on the matter. Not me.

[GritRomney]

Dean tattooed if he was guilty or not near my asshole. I can't see my ass too good. If you want the real truth you'll need to take a close look at my butt hole.

[HEADHONCHO11]

Yes! I, for one, feel total empathy for the poor bugger who drove drunk, killed a man, got caught disposing of the car, denied everything, refused to apologise, tried to pin it on innocent people, had his friends lie for him online, fled and and left his friend and girlfriend in jail for him. Yes, anyone of us could, at any moment, become remorseless sociopaths who refuse to accept responsibility. How dare anyone criticise!

No need to be an arsehole now, the first to throw stones and all thats

[over_active_moderator]

Yes! I, for one, feel total empathy for the poor bugger who drove drunk, killed a man, got caught disposing of the car, denied everything, refused to apologise, tried to pin it on innocent people, had his friends lie for him online, fled and and left his friend and girlfriend in jail for him. Yes, anyone of us could, at any moment, become remorseless sociopaths who refuse to accept responsibility. How dare anyone criticise!

No need to be an arsehole now, the first to throw stones and all thats

take gritromney`s advice re: his butthole, unless you start throwing stones at it. then the offer would surely be off the table

[super danger mouse hans]

Again, and in similarity with Ironlady, I have had the police knocking on my door, have been dragged through court, and been found guilty of assault based on what somebody said because they had some kind of grievance with me. I think I said it further down in this board.

You seem to think that the legal system here does have some degree of fairness, but in my case - and although vastly removed from Zain's case, I can see stark similarities between how he says he was treated and how I was treated during the trial - so similar, they are almost untrue. For example, the witholding of evidence, the lying of police in court, CCTV not working or not mysteriously not available.

The court communicates with you by mail, which you have to collect at a local police station and sign for. However, on two occasions, important dates or decisions by letter didn't arrive. I picked up and signed for an empty envelope - the court date or a vital piece of information was not in the envelope it should have been in, and because I signed for it, they turned round and said that I had received it, and I had to go through a prolonged process to get a copy of what was sent. If you don't sign for the letter, you can't read what is inside. I'm sure this tactic was used so I missed the time frame for appeals against decisions made by the court. What else? The refusal of the admission of evidence favorable to my defense with no real grounds to refuse. The constant swapping and changing of prosecutors and a sudden new witness who "saw everything I did" to hurt my alleged victim.

The courts are far from fair. In fact, they just do what they like. You may be sitting there thinking that I must be saying this because I have been found guilty and therefore have a grievance with the court, and you must be thinking that as the judge found me guilty, I must be guilty. But Robin, nothing is that straight forward in Taiwan. The courts are riddled with corruption and lies and underhand tactics - just look at how many prosecutors and judges have been under investigation for corruption over the last few years. Given the choice between taking the word of an Italian long nosed wooden puppet and a Taiwanese wooden headed judge, I'd take the comical puppet any day.

I know that myself being a long life criminal and Zain Dean being the same we were both railroaded in Taiwan by corrupt cops and judges.

[super danger mouse hans]

I don't know this Zain bloke, but he's been found guilty by the media and numerous flobbers, so he must be guilty. The ongoing nastiness and trial by flob is really starting to irk me. Scant human compassion going around for my liking.

Hell, it's common knowledge in Taiwanese circles that the bars and clubs on Linzen N. Road accept that they have to pay bribes to the police. What weight did this have on the case? Anyone who has ever been dragged through the courts as a foreigner will know what it feels like to be singled out and blamed. As a foreigner, YOU are wrong, and I am drawing from experience.

I once moved some idiot's scooter, so I could move my bike out. He saw me and attacked me - his wife joined in and slapped me with a slipper. During the process, filmed on CCTV, I held the guys arms to stop him from hitting me. Not once did I hit back - just kind of wrestled. I didn't sue him, as I couldn't be bothered. He sued me later though, for assault, claiming he has marks on his arms from the scuffle.
The judge said it was an objective fact that he got injured, and that I was responsible. Instead of using self-defence, I had the option to run away and avoid further conflict. I was taller and heavier than him, so that also added to the fact that it was my fault. I held his arms on purpose.
Yep guys, I am now a criminal - 20 days in jail or 20 thousand NT fine and a criminal record for assault, even though it is clear that he instigated the assault.
Be careful lads and lassies, or I'll smack your head in.

I am also going through another case in which I have been accused of driving away from an accident, even though I got out of my vehicle and spoke to the driver ( a government employee, by the way) who had no interest in co-operating. There was no accident - we both decided at the scene that there was no accident and no damage to any vehicle, just a close call - he didn't even bother to get out of his truck. Now I'm in the shit again for driving away from an accident and causing a public menace.

Even if guilty, ZD in no way deserves to be treated by the press in this way - it's disgusting. Now let it be known that I have some reservations about ZD's story - something does not smell right, but even so, I believe that he wasn't the driver.

The judge seems to have pulled his own evidence out of a hat while disregarding the real material evidence presented as a defence in court.

And this Microsoft bollocks? I think I'll spend the day pirating software. Why should Zain Dean have to pay for pirating microsoft?