ZAIN DEAN CONVICTED KILLER ON THE LAM

Re: ZAIN DEAN CONVICTED KILLER ON THE LAM

Postby serial killer on parole » Wed Nov 20, 2013 3:12 pm

Looks like ZD has some arrest issues.

He can enjoy a nice long vacation. the Ministry of Justice worked together to negotiate mutual legal assistance, on October 17 this year, the British finally determined according to China's criminal sentence, arrest and detention Lin Keying Court in Edinburgh, Scotland,


http://www.appledaily.com.tw/realtimene ... 20/295803/



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2013年11月20日14:15 【胡守得/台北報導】2010年英商CEO林克穎酒駕撞死送報生黃俊德,遭判刑4年確定,去年8月發監前在女友董玉琪協助下,冒用友人大衛的護照潛逃出境,今年2月再被判賠755萬元;後經我外交、法務部合力交涉司法互助奏效,今年10月17日英國終於根據我國刑事確定判決,逮捕林克穎並羈押於蘇格蘭愛丁堡法院中,明將第3次開庭,審理林聲請保釋案。

據了解,我國引用英國「2003年引渡法案」,已針對林克穎案和英國簽訂個案司法互助協定,並向愛丁堡法院聲請押解林克穎來台執行,有機會將林引渡回台。

林克穎案在英已引起各駐外媒體注意,多次向我外交部、法務部查證,外交部擔心司法互助曝光恐影響訴訟進行,始終不予回應,但林案明天再開庭,恐紙包不住火。

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Re: ZAIN DEAN CONVICTED KILLER ON THE LAM

Postby BLACKCRUSADER » Wed Nov 20, 2013 3:45 pm

MAOMAN wrote:
VAIN DEAN wrote:
KTVDRIVER wrote:Well, hello again, Mr Dean! Long time no see!


Quiet, you disreputable dunce! Why didn't you help me in my hour of need?

Sometimes I wish you were a little less honest - life would have been a great deal easier for me


How do we tell the wrongfully accused from the truly guilty? Easy. We don't. That's what the justice system is in place for. If the law says someone is not guilty, then that person must be treated as not guilty. It's the only way we can protect the innocent among us.

Guilty in the eyes of God? Well, now you're talking about sin, and that's something that we hold deep in our hearts, hidden from public view. Certainly not something for us to judge.


Well your mate Zane Dean is definitely very guilty. I am sure he won't be relishing coming back or will he. he says he loves Taiwan so much he must so happy to get a free ride back. ZD isn't the innocent among us.

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Good to see that chap David Churcher did some time at least before being deported.

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Re: ZAIN DEAN CONVICTED KILLER ON THE LAM

Postby serial killer on parole » Sat Nov 23, 2013 12:57 pm

Funny to read the comments on the other expats sites.

firstly ZD isn't being extradited to face a trial. He is a convicted criminal. The UK in extraditing to territories NOT in category 1 or 2 will do so only if a 3 year prison term has been determined. This is the case for ZD. The civil suit has nothing to do with the extradition. What happens about that is a separate matter. ZD tried to claim that as the UK has no formal diplomatic relations there should be no extradition. The claim was denied by the court. There has never been a requirement to have diplomatic relations.

Also, many UK nationals have renounced their UK citizenship to become ROC Citizens. There must be channels to do this that are recognized in both the UK and Taiwan.
Blackcrusader was not allowed to renounce automatically, the Australian government determined that to do so he must become a Citizen of another country. The immigration Act of Australia recognizes that Taiwan is considered a country, but that the Australian Goverment does not hold formal diplomatic relations with the ROC Goverment. Therefor application for renunciation was approved.

So for those who think ZD will says jail is too harsh for his sorry coloured arse, he may want to review this case. He claimed Thai jails were in breach of European standards and therefor should not be extradited. He lost his appeal in the High Court.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... harge.html

https://www.gov.uk/extradition-processes-and-review

Dual criminality test

‘Dual criminality’ means that for someone to be extradited, their alleged conduct has to be a criminal offence in both the surrendering and the requesting state.

There is a list of 32 categories of offence for which the dual criminality test is not needed. The offence must carry a maximum sentence of at least 3 years in the requesting state.

If the offence isn’t covered in this list, it must be an offence in both the surrendering and requesting state. Also, if the conduct was carried out outside the requesting state, it must be an offence in both the issuing and executing states.

Extradition requests: what’s required

When an extradition request is made to the Secretary of State if it’s ‘valid’, the Secretary of State will issue a certificate and send the request to the court.

The request will be valid if it is for a person accused or convicted of an offence, and if it’s made by an appropriate authority, such as a diplomatic or consular representative.

Special arrangements where there is no extradition treaty

Even if there is no formal extradition treaty with a country, it may still be possible to make an extradition request.

The Home Office liaises with that country via the FCO, to find out if their domestic law allows for extradition, and if so, what documents are needed.

Sometimes a one-off arrangement has to be in place before a request can be processed. In effect this involves negotiating a mini-treaty, known as a ‘special arrangement’.
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Re: ZAIN DEAN CONVICTED KILLER ON THE LAM

Postby tainancowboy » Sat Nov 23, 2013 9:09 pm

Bugger all...the lad is a criminal and is going to return to what many Taiwanese have faced as a result of their criminal activity.


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Re: ZAIN DEAN CONVICTED KILLER ON THE LAM

Postby BLACKCRUSADER » Fri Nov 29, 2013 5:46 pm

FUNKYMONKEY wrote:Thank God for some level headed reason Mr Hulk. He is a proven criminal and anyone trying to defend him is an absolute idiot. I feel so sorry for the Huang family. They will never receive justice.


Re: Zain Dean reported to have fled Taiwan
Postby maoman » Tue Jan 29, 2013 22:38
Well huh. If he was innocent all along, then good for him. If he in fact WAS guilty, then he's gotten a bit of undeserved luck in getting away clean like that. I never knew him well enough to be sure of his innocence or guilt. I'm not even sure that you can know ANYONE that well. I still stand by what I've said earlier - his trial was crap. The police evidence was crap. And the media are crap. Having attended a session as a witness, this is something I absolutely believe.

I feel sorry for the victim's family. Justice, even the illusion of justice, might have provided some small comfort. But there will be no more appeals, no more evidence shown, no more light shone on the circumstances of this case. And the person they believe to be guilty will never have to pay for the crime. That's got to be pretty hard for them to take.


Re: Zain Dean Reported to Have Fled Taiwan
Postby sandman » Fri Feb 08, 2013 14:49
Deputy Minister of Justice Chen Shou-huang told CNA that according to information provided by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Zain Dean, the convict who was given four years in prison on drunk driving charges by Taiwan's High Court in July 2012, is now hiding in Switzerland

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And where, pray tell, did the most honourable and GREATLY esteemed Ministry get its information? Dollars to donuts, off this website or the flob. :lol: :lol: :lol: If Zain's in Switzerland I'll eat my hat (maybe). He's PLAYING them. That's the ONLY reason he's posting on bulletin boards. He knows how incompetent these fellows are and he's playing them. Shooting fish in a barrel. He's somewhere, that's for sure. But nobody knows where, and that's exactly how he wants it.


Jeeze Sandman ZD must have been shocked when he saw those trained seals coming when he was arrested. Seals as you may know have pretty sharp teeth and a strong bite.

Incompetent are the fellows in the government here eh? So says you. I think ZD is wishing that was true but he knows now it isn't. He thought he had gotten away with killing someone by fleeing a jail sentence. Guess you also never saw his being arrested in Scotland coming either.
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Re: ZAIN DEAN CONVICTED KILLER ON THE LAM

Postby MAOMAN » Sat Nov 30, 2013 9:02 am

Re: Zain Dean Reported to Have Fled Taiwan
Postby maoman » Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:13


I don't doubt that that Huang died of a broken neck, and how terrible that must have been, but it makes it sound like the car broke his neck. In my experience, fatal injuries are usually cause by damage incurred after the rider has come off his bike, not from the impact itself. This is because in most cases, the point of impact is at knee level, not higher. This is one reason, apart from the safety gear worn, why professional motorcycle racers don't usually sustain life-threatening injuries. The race tracks are laid out so that when they do come off their bikes they slide for a long distance before coming to a stop. Much different than being slammed into a curb, another vehicle, or a lightpost. Anyway, just an observation. I wonder what the forensics report actually said? It's not really important, I guess. Dead is dead.
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Re: ZAIN DEAN CONVICTED KILLER ON THE LAM

Postby REPLICANT » Sat Nov 30, 2013 9:07 am

MAOMAN wrote:Re: Zain Dean Reported to Have Fled Taiwan
Postby maoman » Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:13


I don't doubt that that Huang died of a broken neck, and how terrible that must have been, but it makes it sound like the car broke his neck. In my experience, fatal injuries are usually cause by damage incurred after the rider has come off his bike, not from the impact itself. This is because in most cases, the point of impact is at knee level, not higher. This is one reason, apart from the safety gear worn, why professional motorcycle racers don't usually sustain life-threatening injuries. The race tracks are laid out so that when they do come off their bikes they slide for a long distance before coming to a stop. Much different than being slammed into a curb, another vehicle, or a lightpost. Anyway, just an observation. I wonder what the forensics report actually said? It's not really important, I guess. Dead is dead.


Really Maoman. In your experience??? Really? Are you now some sort of traffic accident specialist as well? So in your experience? What is that? You've gone around causing fatal accidents? Huang was hit from behind and could very easily have had his neck broken from whiplash prior to hitting the ground. That's one of the reasons head rests are installed in cars, so that when rear ended the passengers and driver don't suffer serious neck injuries.
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Re: ZAIN DEAN CONVICTED KILLER ON THE LAM

Postby MAOMAN » Sat Nov 30, 2013 9:09 am

REPLICANT wrote:Huang was hit from behind and could very easily have had his neck broken from whiplash prior to hitting the ground. That's one of the reasons head rests are installed in cars, so that when rear ended the passengers and driver don't suffer serious neck injuries.


I didn't know that.
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Re: ZAIN DEAN CONVICTED KILLER ON THE LAM

Postby REPLICANT » Sat Nov 30, 2013 9:12 am

MAOMAN wrote:
REPLICANT wrote:Huang was hit from behind and could very easily have had his neck broken from whiplash prior to hitting the ground. That's one of the reasons head rests are installed in cars, so that when rear ended the passengers and driver don't suffer serious neck injuries.


I didn't know that.


Well dear leader, since you are a self proclaimed expert on fatal accidents one may have thought you actually knew what you were talking about. Instead you are just gas bagging again but making statements about your experiences with fatal accidents. But hey as you said about Mr Huang, dead is dead.
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