ZAIN DEAN CONVICTED KILLER ON THE LAM

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This is one reason, apart from the safety gear worn, why professional motorcycle racers don't usually sustain life-threatening injuries. The race tracks are laid out so that when they do come off their bikes they slide for a long distance before coming to a stop. Much different than being slammed into a curb, another vehicle, or a lightpost. Anyway, just an observation. I wonder what the forensics report actually said? It's not really important, I guess. Dead is dead.

Yup not important to you who is dead or not. As for professional motorcycle racers not getting killed, what are you on about? Obviously you don't follow any professional events.

Killed in top level racing. Let alone the thousands of other professional events held where people die.

Tomizawa, ShoyaShoya Tomizawa (JPN) 02010-09-05September 5, 2010 2010 San Marino Grand Prix Moto2 Misano World Circuit Suter Race [87]
Simoncelli, MarcoMarco Simoncelli (ITA) 02011-10-23October 23, 2011 2011 Malaysian Grand Prix MotoGP Sepang International Circuit Honda Race


2000 Joey Dunlop Tallinn Isle of Man [96]
2005 Bruno Bonhuil Guia Circuit Macau Grand Prix [97]
2008 Craig Jones Brands Hatch World Supersport Championship [96]
2012 Luis Carreira Guia Circuit Macau Grand Prix [98]
2013 Andrea Antonelli Moscow Raceway World Supersport Championship [99]
Sandor Pohl TT Circuit Assen Sidecar World Championship

2001 Gerald Allaway Ulster Grand Prix [131]
2002 Gary Jess Ulster Grand Prix [132]
2004 Andy Wallace Ulster Grand Prix [133]
2006 Darran Lindsay Killalane Road Races [89]
2008 Robert Dunlop North West 200 [89]
2008 Martin Finnegan Tandragee 100 [89]
2009 Mark Young North West 200 [89]
2010 Victor Gilmore Killalane Road Races [134]
2012 Mark Buckley North West 200 [135]
2012 Lee Vernon Dundrod 150 [136]

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I didn't know that.

[serial killer on parole]

Re: Zain Dean Reported to Have Fled Taiwan
Postby sandman » Wed May 15, 2013 14:02

And they know EXACTLY where he is. They can't do jack shit about it, though. So saving face is a more expedient move than actually admitting anything. Gosh! Sound familiar? Can you imagine what Apple Daily would have to say if it came out that yes, the Taiwanese authorities know his actual address, and yet, cannot even approach him? Face. FAR, FAR more important than a dead newspaper seller.

And yes, they are also aware that his address is about three blocks away from the ROC rep. office in Edinburgh.

Must be nice for you to have to eat those words Sandman. You and the other plonkers who thought the ROC Government would do nothing to get ZD.

ZD probably read your post and thought, right, they'll never get me. I bet he's trying to find a zillion excuses as to why he shouldn't be extradited, like the silly one his lawyers tried with that the UK and ROC doesn't have diplomatic relations. Ha Ha what a laugh. They have other formal arrangements as ZD has found out.

Sure they knew his address, otherwise how do you think ZD was arrested. Fortunately he didn't know what was coming and didn't have time to flee. I guess now he's getting a good feeling for prison life. It would be nice if the UK courts decide he should stay in prison without the chance of bail throughout all of his appeals to avoid prison time in Taiwan. ZD had the chance to appeal the conviction of killing Mr Huang. Still waiting on his so called international human rights organizations to help him. What about his so called video evidence? Maybe his mate Mr Churcher hasn't had the time to make up a video for him yet?

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Well huh. If he was innocent all along, then good for him. If he in fact WAS guilty, then he's gotten a bit of undeserved luck in getting away clean like that.

Strange how you would describe the escape of a convicted criminal as "luck". It speaks volumes about your moral make up.

I never knew him well enough to be sure of his innocence or guilt. I'm not even sure that you can know ANYONE that well.

Congratulations! You win the 1st annual Moronosa Non Sequitur Award [tm] for faulty logic with that bit of bullshit. Your MORE ON card is in the mail!

It is not necessary to know someone in order to know if someone did something or not. In fact, knowing someone can often cloud your judgment. Spouses of murderers are sometimes the last people to clue in to what their husbands have been up to. If we followed your logic, no judge could decide anyone's guilt because they do not "know" the accused. People make up their minds based on what evidence is put before them, and there is more than enough known about this case for the average person to discern guilt here (let alone a court). The evidence is damning and always has been, in spite of the concerted attempt on the part of the accused's supporters (of which you are clearly one) to confuse the facts and stifle justified outrage over the crime. I suppose a further indication of how people actually feel about this case is the lack of organized support for Dean. Usually, when expats experience problems here (deaths, serious accidents etc), the expat community comes together to help. There are usually benefit nights in expat bars and restaurants as well as other things done to help and show support... except in this case. Perhaps people "knew him well enough" to know he's not innocent.

I still stand by what I've said earlier - his trial was crap. The police evidence was crap. And the media are crap. Having attended a session as a witness, this is something I absolutely believe.

What are your legal credentials? How many criminal trials have you personally attended and in how many countries? How strange it is that you won't commit to an opinion as to his guilt or innocence, but you assert strongly that his trial was "crap". Of course, you aren't basing this on evidence or facts from the trial, only your impression based on the one session you happened to have attended (in the public gallery, btw, and not as a "witness" in the trial!). The only thing "crap" is your opinion, which is nothing more than an attempt to pander to your friends and legitimize their ridiculous defence of this killer. You refuse to comment on his guilt, because you know what everyone else knows-- he's guilty. You just don't want to come out and say so. The way you've tried to straddle the fence by asserting you don't "know him well enough" to decide his guilt, while simultaneously making statements that suggest his innocence or mistreatment, is as dishonest as it is cowardly. I have more respect for people who state unambiguous support for the guy than for those who attempt to confuse and obfuscate as you continue to do.

I feel sorry for the victim's family. Justice, even the illusion of justice, might have provided some small comfort. But there will be no more appeals, no more evidence shown, no more light shone on the circumstances of this case. And the person they believe to be guilty will never have to pay for the crime. That's got to be pretty hard for them to take.

You don't care. That's clear. Further, your continued support for someone whom it is PATENTLY OBVIOUS committed a very serious crime and took a life is a slap in the face to the victim's family. The kinds of posts that were allowed on flob while you ran it and the kinds of statements on tease nowadays give all expats a bad name.

And the person they believe to be guilty will never have to pay for the crime.

I suppose Dean can team up with OJ Simpson in the search for the "real" guilty party. They'll search really hard, honest.

[MAOMAN]

But hey as you said about Mr Huang, dead is dead.

Yes it's my favourite line.

[serial killer on parole]

But hey as you said about Mr Huang, dead is dead.

Yes it's my favourite line.

Well hopefully your good friend ZD will be back in Taiwan.

Another trial soon for bail and extradition hearing on 8/9 January. The MOU for his arrest was signed and ZD was arrested the next day, ( maybe read Sandmans taunt about how the lapped seals had no clue as ZD was living only 3 blocks away form the Taiwan rep Office ) I would say the Scottish Authorities had been keeping a close eye on the fujitive Dean for some time. But of course ZD will claim he wasn't arrested, he was waiting for them to take him away, just like his claim the police in Taiwan came to his apartment just as he was on his way to visit them.


http://www.chinapost.com.tw/taiwan/intl ... earing.htm

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Re: Zain Dean conviction--fatal hit & run case PART II
Postby maoman » 20 Apr 2011, 14:40

I would assume that the last known driver of the car would be at fault. There's no dispute on either side that ZD didn't drive away from the KTV - he went to the passenger seat. Why go to all the trouble of getting a valet to drive (he had already done this once before, earlier in the evening), only to kick him out a block down the road?

When we neared the 101, the driver tried to wake me up asking, ‘where do you live, what’s your address?’ I turned around in a half-sleeply state and saw a man I didn’t recognize thus I didn’t want to give him any details of where I lived etc. I simply asked him to drop me off at the corner (Songren and Xinyi) of the street behind my house. I then got in the drivers seat (not even at this point noticing the damage on the car) and drove the last couple of hundred meters home, parked the car and somehow made it up to the house.

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Re: Zain Dean conviction--fatal hit & run case PART II
Postby maoman » 20 Apr 2011, 14:40

I would assume that the last known driver of the car would be at fault.

Well ZD has admitted he is the last known driver of the car as he was shown on video to be driving his car home. ZD also wrote that he drove the car home.

[serial killer on parole]

For those who think if ZD had fled to India and been safe, another nig nog drunk driver who killed someone caught after 4 years.

Fled after using another persons passport. It's not like it cannot happen in western countries as well.

http://www.smh.com.au/national/he-is-a- ... 2yz44.html

24-year-old Puneet will likely appear in an Indian court this week to begin extradition proceedings against him. Despite a new streamlined extradition treaty between Australia and India, this process is expected to take months to finalise.

The maximum penalty for culpable driving causing death in Victoria is 20 years imprisonment.

And ZD only gets 4 years.... sheesh

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The noose just got a little bit tighter.

http://www.appledaily.com.tw/realtimene ... 18/311313/

Be seeing ya real soon Mr Dean.