ZAIN DEAN CONVICTED KILLER ON THE LAM

Re: ZAIN DEAN CONVICTED KILLER ON THE LAM

Postby HEADHONCHO11 » Sat Mar 01, 2014 12:46 pm

Only child, breadwinner, newspaper delivery man, mother died since the case, father looking for compensation.
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Re: ZAIN DEAN CONVICTED KILLER ON THE LAM

Postby DR SPOCK » Sat Mar 01, 2014 12:48 pm

HEADHONCHO11 wrote:Only child, breadwinner, newspaper delivery man, mother died since the case, father looking for compensation.



HH11, in nearly every post you make you post incorrect information.

Try only son, the man killed has a sister, the father a daughter. Why shouldn't he get compensation from the guy who killed his son?
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Re: ZAIN DEAN CONVICTED KILLER ON THE LAM

Postby BLACKCRUSADER » Sat Mar 01, 2014 2:18 pm

VAIN DEAN wrote:Its not fair. The fat lady did not get to sing at my trial over judical abuses in Taiwan. I don't know why Judge K, ( SHERIFF KENNETH MACIVER ) I call him Special K as we so close now, doesn't like the smell of Lindas tesitmony. She hasn't even given it.

I suspect the judge was taking a call from the white warrior who threatened to make the 2/28 white terror come to Scotland. She has been stood up yet again.

Woe is me. But Mr Chen my lawyer got a good grilling by the judge. So what it to be? He loves me, he loves me not, he loves me, he loves me not.

I have to rot a little bit longer to know if all you guys will be singing this. Another hearing date on 12 March.


http://www.chinatimes.com/realtimenews/ ... 004-260408

Yes must be a big blow to your extradition lawyers to have your number 1 supporter be told her testimony not required. She is no longer relevant.

http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/n ... -1-3324718

Since being held, Dean has made six applications for bail – but it has been refused on each occasion.
On Friday, defence advocate Niall McCluskey told Sheriff Maciver that he wanted to lead evidence at a future date which would help his client’s case.
Sheriff Maciver fixed a procedural hearing on March 12 2014. A further hearing, in which evidence will be led, will take place on April 28, 2014.


SHERIFF KENNETH MACIVER the Judge in ZD's case wrote this below. He's been doing extraditions and appeals for 15 years

In the event that extradition is ordered by the sheriff, the final avenue for appeal envisaged by the Extradition Act is to three Scottish judges sitting as a Court of Appeal, and they are usually able to deal with the appeals relatively quickly although they too have duplicate arguments to deal with because the devolution issue decisions are frequently appealed also, - and sometimes that court has to deal with fresh devolution minutes. In the event that they refuse the appeal there is then an inordinate delay while special leave is sought in London and in many of these cases the extraditees are in custody. Sadly as a consequence of these matters some extradition case take up to a year to complete and we now have the reputation of being the slowest country in Europe in dealing with European Arrest Warrants under the new international processes.



So we may not see ZD for a long time. Also even if ZD wins his appeal the lawyers representing Taiwan can also appeal the decision. ZD will remain in prison as he is a flight risk. In his bail applications the Taiwan authorities were able to show in his criminal case for copywrite ZD left Taiwan during his trial and changed his name and returned. That's why there was an existing arrest warrant for him when he was in court for the DUI offences. His fleing using identity theft on another persons bought passport just shows how slimy ZD is. Again he lies about using it without his consent. ZD just lies all the time about everything. He has no credibility.
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Re: ZAIN DEAN CONVICTED KILLER ON THE LAM

Postby VAIN DEAN » Sun Mar 02, 2014 4:06 pm

Now the Scottish press are being racist and xenophobic. Its just like Taiwan when they say I was born in India.

They don't even check facts as to where I was born, just like in Taiwan. I'm being railroaded again by the media. It's a breach of my human rights.

http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/n ... -1-3324718

Lawyers acting for Zain Dean, 32, claim that the Indian-born businessman was arrested by corrupt policemen when he was detained for the 2010 death of the boy.


Dean, an ethnic Indian, is also said to have used make up to give himself the appearance of a white man. Two people were later arrested and jailed for helping him flee.
However, there is one thing I do still believe in, and that is Chris and my GF who are on the whole decent, well meaning, industrious, and friendly. I will miss their generosity of spirit, and their willingness to take it up the arse and do jail time for me. 16 November 1971 is my birthday please do send me presents
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Re: ZAIN DEAN CONVICTED KILLER ON THE LAM

Postby serial killer on parole » Sun Mar 02, 2014 6:21 pm

Re: Zain Dean conviction--fatal hit & run case PART IV
Postby Chris » If I truly believed myself to be innocent, I wouldn't want to serve any sentence: why would I accept being punished for doing no wrong?

One thing about this case that irks me is the fact that he appealed the case, but ended up having his sentence increased. I've never heard of such an appeals process.


really Chris, you always are on about how you are an expert on legal affairs in other threads. Now you don't know that sentences can be increased on appeal?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... gging.html

http://www.theguardian.com/law/2013/dec ... urt-appeal

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-08-28/p ... er/4918252

http://law.justia.com/constitution/us/a ... ction.html

ZD appealed his conviction and was RETRIED. Under new trials you can get your sentence increased.

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Re: ZAIN DEAN CONVICTED KILLER ON THE LAM

Postby TEMPER GAIN » Mon Mar 03, 2014 2:35 pm

superking wrote:

Tempo Gain wrote: I think the other guy drove, and knowing all too well the way things work here and how it was going to play out, he made some bad choices.


I dunno what those sentences mean. Who was the killer?


The person who drove was the killer, that is, the other guy.
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Re: ZAIN DEAN CONVICTED KILLER ON THE LAM

Postby VAIN DEAN » Mon Mar 03, 2014 2:43 pm

TEMPO LOSS wrote:
superking wrote:

Tempo Gain wrote: I think the other guy drove, and knowing all too well the way things work here and how it was going to play out, he made some bad choices.


I dunno what those sentences mean. Who was the killer?


The person who drove was the killer, that is, the other guy.


That's great news you know who the other killer driver is. Can you please call the Scottish Court and ask for SHERIFF KENNETH MACIVER. Tell him you will tesitfy by video. Apologize for late request as Linda Arrigo can't testify. The number is +44 131 225 2525

You know I took my masters Studied Complementary and Alternative Medicine (CAM) for my thesis, with focus on treating dementia and other age related conditions. I know I am not so old but as you can see from my drunken driving I can't recall much at all about killing anyone. We know it wasn't Mr Cho the KTV driver as he was back at the KTV before the accident. So now you agree it must have been another KTV driver I could never identify until I fled Taiwan and my memory returned.

You know sitting in prison they don't let me have any more blackouts from booze binges and no pretty KTV hostesses to rub me happy. My current abode doesn't match the "prestige" Kensington Street abode I had before. The food, well as you know I require special foods. The best part is I no longer need to attend alcoholics anonymous.

My presence at the scene of the crime does not sustain an inference of participation in the killing of the deceased, because I can't remember any accident and I wasn't driving.
Whilst it may be that I answered some questions put by the police because I did not wish to connect myself with the events surrounding the deceased's death, that does not lead to the conclusion that I was driving, or there was a realization of guilt of any of the offences with which I has been charged and convicted of.

Some people around here think that my statements made on websites, both in the course of my interview with the police and conversations with my partner, are at odds with such a realization that I could be found guilty. I am innocent until proven guilty. Like OJ Simpson I will be always blaming the death on someone else.

There is no video evidence of me driving at the time of the accident.
However, there is one thing I do still believe in, and that is Chris and my GF who are on the whole decent, well meaning, industrious, and friendly. I will miss their generosity of spirit, and their willingness to take it up the arse and do jail time for me. 16 November 1971 is my birthday please do send me presents
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Re: ZAIN DEAN CONVICTED KILLER ON THE LAM

Postby serial killer on parole » Mon Mar 03, 2014 6:06 pm

VAIN DEAN wrote:There is no video evidence of me driving at the time of the accident.


There is also no video or other evidence of anyone from the KTV driving at time of accident either.

But there is video and other witness statements placing the KTV driver back at his work place several minutes before the accident took place.
The KTV driver said you asked him to get out of the car prior to the accident. This was confirmed by the judges in your appeal.

Even you yourself wrote you asked him to get out of the car and continued driving home yourself, but you claim its only after the accident, which you don't event remember happening as you were too drunk to notice anything except it was dark and it was fast. So in this sate who can trust you to remember what really happened. You can't identify any KTV driver before or during your trial and appeals. Only after you flee Taiwan.

So we are supposed to believe its another mystery KTV driver? Better have video evidence of that or I say it never took place. Just a convenient figment of your imagination in
a blazen attempt at always blaming someone else.
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Re: ZAIN DEAN CONVICTED KILLER ON THE LAM

Postby CHAON THE SAGE » Wed Mar 05, 2014 1:42 pm

I read turtons blog and there are some good comments.

http://michaelturton.blogspot.com/2010/ ... ement.html

Anonymous said...
You'd think a person wouldn't submit doctor-ed video as evidence unless they could be pretty certain that there would not be any other video available that could used as evidence that the doctor-ed video was indeed doctor-ed. And with all the security cameras everywhere, how could anyone be so certain?


This is a very good point. Also if ZD knows the cops are so corrupt why didn't he simply pay them off and not get charged?

This post reminds me of FLUX post on fob which was quickly deleted.

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Yeah, I'd say you're correct to say that he's a big liar. That's been his job for the past 16 years - "Marketing".
I've worked with him for years and he is absolutely as shady as the media has come to believe. There is no untruth there. Not to mention that he had been or is/was an Alcoholics Anonymous member for some time.
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Re: ZAIN DEAN CONVICTED KILLER ON THE LAM

Postby KTVDRIVER » Wed Mar 05, 2014 3:11 pm

TEMPO LOSS wrote:
superking wrote:

Tempo Gain wrote: I think the other guy drove, and knowing all too well the way things work here and how it was going to play out, he made some bad choices.


I dunno what those sentences mean. Who was the killer?


The person who drove was the killer, that is, the other guy.


Frankly, it's irresponsible for an admin of a commercial site to come out and state a position like this on a controversial matter, especially when you don't even bother to offer up any analyses of the facts in the case to back it up. Conflict of interest much? But your opinion says more about who you know as opposed to what you know. You're just pandering to your pals, just as flobbers always have.

About the supposed corruption, assuming the KTV did in fact bribe police, it raises a few questions:

1) If the police were on the take, why couldn't Dean have just bought his way out of trouble?

2) Why would the corruption survive the scrutiny of 2 separate trials, which were themselves observed by media and, undoubtedly, monitored by the British trade office? Why would it make it all the way up to the president's office (President Ma has commented on the case)?

3) If this were, indeed, a case of local corruption, why would Taiwan's government pursue Dean all the way to Scotland and open themselves to international scrutiny as they have done? Why would the government and the court have it in for a nobody like Dean to such an extent that they would go to such extremes? Also, why would the UK even sign a memorandum for extradition if the trials and convictions were tainted (and the conspiracy theorists really need to ask themselves if they actually believe they have superior knowledge of this case than the UK government has)?

4) Certain individuals love to bring up the alleged corruption case involving officers in the Da'an precinct. Of course, what these people fail to mention is that none of the officers who were subject to that investigation had anything to do with Dean's case. These kinds of internal investigations are common in police departments all over the world. This is why they have internal affairs divisions. If an investigation of officers in a particular detachment meant that all officers from there were guilty, no police departments could function anywhere.

As I love to say, anything is possible, but not everything is likely. It's just extremely unlikely that a case involving a bribe in a local Taiwanese police precinct could have ever reached this point. It's improbable to the point of absurdity. It involves too many people, too many levels of government and in too many countries. No, in much the same way that sometimes a birthday cake is just a birthday cake, sometimes a drunk driver is just a drunk driver.
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