ZAIN DEAN CONVICTED KILLER ON THE LAM

Re: ZAIN DEAN CONVICTED KILLER ON THE LAM

Postby THE HULK » Fri Apr 26, 2013 6:05 pm

REPLICANT wrote:The police have shots of ZDF's car going along Chung Hsiao East Road Section 4 with only one person in the car. It was too dark to identify that one person in the car.

So as only one person in the car and the KTV driver back at the KTV, who was driving the car then? That was just before the accident took place.

There was no one slouched over in the front passenger seat.


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Re: ZAIN DEAN CONVICTED KILLER ON THE LAM

Postby JIMIPRESLEY » Fri Apr 26, 2013 7:50 pm

Fair enough Hulk, but surely the FACT that crucial video evidence went "missing" or was obviously tampered with should cast some illegitimacy on the credibility of the allegations?
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Re: ZAIN DEAN CONVICTED KILLER ON THE LAM

Postby REPLICANT » Fri Apr 26, 2013 10:01 pm

JIMIPRESLEY wrote:Fair enough Hulk, but surely the FACT that crucial video evidence went "missing" or was obviously tampered with should cast some illegitimacy on the credibility of the allegations?


The issue is not of so called missing video's but that false claims by Zain Dean and his supporters that the KTV driver was not back at the KTV prior to the accident and that this video showing him back had been tampered with. This is just pure lies concocted by his supporters like The Chief who claimed the vidoe had been forensically examined and had been found to have been tampered with, conlficting with Zain Dean who said he was never given access at all to the video used in his trial. In fact the judge ordered that the videos from the KTV which were recorded in one hour loops from 4am - 5am and 5am - 6am were in fact not staged nor had they been tampered with. The judge also ruled that the KTV Driver Cho was seen leaving to get ZD's car and drove it to the front of the KTV to pick UP ZD, who was placed in the passenger seat of the car. This is also not disputed by ZD. Zain Dean's car was filmed on Chung Hsiao East Road a shortly before the accident.

Mr Cho admitted he was the one who drove the car away and ZD asked him to get out not far away from the KTV, around a 5 minut walk away. Other witnesses and video show Mr Cho back at the KTV several minutes before ZD's car struck the newspaper delivery man causing his death. Zain Dean cannot plausibly say who was driving as he claims he was too drunk to walk let alone drive, and doesn't even recall the accident. So as Mr Cho was back at the KTV and Zain Dean was on video driving the car home do you really expect us to believe there was another pesron driving?

Just about all cases like these are decided on what is called circumstantial evidence. How do you think people have been held accountable in courts before as most crimes are not caught on video? Jimipresley you have stated you were a drug addict for over 10 years. I don't have any video evidence of that so you I just not accept what you have said? You ever get convicted for drug use where no video evidence was available?
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Re: ZAIN DEAN CONVICTED KILLER ON THE LAM

Postby VAIN DEAN » Mon Apr 29, 2013 4:52 am

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VAIN DEAN wrote:have been away for awhile attempting to get some semblance of order back into my life.

Yes, I did say I took David's passport without his consent, but actually I did have his consent. I was asked by several mutual friends to say that I had stolen it to protect David, as that is what David was pleading at the outset. Even though it wasn't the case, I wanted to do whatever I could to help him at that point. All in all, it'd just be easier for the courts if I went to jail and that was the end of it. This is the main reason why I decided to leave, as I knew talking to them whilst I was at their mercy wasn't getting anywhere.


Bah Humbug I say. You took advantage of a destitute guy who was stupid enough to help you. Secondly why are you calling him "david" when we all know his real name to be Chris. You want to help him? I think you want to help yourself and screw the rest. An innocent person would rather go to jail than leave their friends to do their jail time for them. Now your friends will join you in having committed criminal acts. Your lies just get you into more trouble. You have lied in your intervies to the media so why should we belive anything you say. So now you have video!!!! Where was it before? You claim you believe the ktv video to be fake but the court judge had the one hour file sreviewed and they werent hacked as you claimed..



Well they weren't very big lies, just little fibs really, like me having a wife. Like my little fib when I did media interviews and said I never drove the car home that night, when in fact I did. You know I would love to come back an help Chris, but I wouldn't want to make him suffer any more than he already is by doing that. It must he hard for him to know I am as free as a bird and he's doing time. My guess is he wont serve too long before being deported.

Anyway he's got jail time for singing like a canary when he could have just denied everything.

Even if the cops did have text message and emails. He could have claimed his phone was stolen and his email hacked.
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Re: ZAIN DEAN CONVICTED KILLER ON THE LAM

Postby REPLICANT » Mon Apr 29, 2013 5:52 pm

VAIN DEAN wrote:Anyway he's got jail time for singing like a canary when he could have just denied everything.

Even if the cops did have text message and emails. He could have claimed his phone was stolen and his email hacked.


I guess that's like when you said you didnt steal his passport you just used it without his consent. Which you later on confirmed you lied about as you paid him so you could ilegally use his passport to flee with.
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Re: ZAIN DEAN CONVICTED KILLER ON THE LAM

Postby GritRomney » Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:03 pm

One day everything we ever wrote on the internet will come back and haunt us. I will be super fucked for thinking about shit that could one day become maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarggggh.

He done it. Drunk fucking cunt. Done it.

Youd need to be some twat not to go for hypnosis. Or major depressed. cock sucking asshole piece of shit killed a man and we sit and cluck about it like some fucking dick faced outsiders. Yeah some crimes are not hung on the right perp. This one is hung on the right perp and then everyone goes OH ITS FUCKING RACIST. Well its super racist to live somewhere and think the law there is a piece of crap. You isnt no humanitarian for living in taiwan you are a misfit cunt who got kicked out of your little hole because you are a cock and now you are in taiwan you are still a cock.

WHEREVER YOU GO, THERE YOU ARE. That is a shout out for all the dean zain apologist twats like head honcho the second.
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Re: ZAIN DEAN CONVICTED KILLER ON THE LAM

Postby SANDMAN » Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:50 pm

Sorry, father of the dead guy! Really! We're SORRY! Look, just blame it all on the damned dirty foreigner, yeah? Hell, yeah! That's the way to do it!"
I don't care if Dean is guilty or innocent. He got a fucked-up court case and those same dumb twats have fucked up AGAIN by letting him go. TAIWAN, TAIWAN, TAIWAN! But NOOOOOOOOOOO! Let's blame the foreigner!
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Re: ZAIN DEAN CONVICTED KILLER ON THE LAM

Postby MAOMAN » Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:53 pm

SANDMAN wrote:Sorry, father of the dead guy! Really! We're SORRY! Look, just blame it all on the damned dirty foreigner, yeah? Hell, yeah! That's the way to do it!"
I don't care if Dean is guilty or innocent. He got a fucked-up court case and those same dumb twats have fucked up AGAIN by letting him go. TAIWAN, TAIWAN, TAIWAN! But NOOOOOOOOOOO! Let's blame the foreigner!


For me the problem stems, not from a conviction of his innocence (which I don't have), but a lack of conviction in the court process and in the media. I base this on what I have read and on what I have witnessed in the court room. Honestly, I thought the trial was a sham. ZD might indeed be guilty, but that's not a conclusion that could have been dependably arrived at by his trial, in my opinion.

Taipei Times reports that ZD's (commonlaw) wife was detained and released on bail, on suspicion of having been involved in ZD's escape.
In the same story, Linda Arrigo says that there is "no need" for ZD to return to Taiwan. Interesting wording, and the Taipei Times doesn't follow up with her reasoning. Does the Taiwan media have anything further on that?

Lastly, in the article, it states that:
The court said that after drinking with friends in the early hours of March 25, 2010, Dean decided to drive home in his black Mercedes-Benz. On the way, he allegedly hit a scooter from behind, striking its rider, Huang Chiun-teh (黃俊德), so hard that Huang’s neck was broken, leaving him paralyzed for several minutes before he died.

I don't doubt that that Huang died of a broken neck, and how terrible that must have been, but it makes it sound like the car broke his neck. In my experience, fatal injuries are usually cause by damage incurred after the rider has come of his bike, not from the impact itself. This is because in most cases, the point of impact is at knee level, not higher. This is one reason, apart from the safety gear worn, why professional motorcycle racers don't usually sustain life-threatening injuries. The race tracks are laid out so that when they do come off their bikes they slide for a long distance before coming to a stop. Much different than being slammed into a curb, another vehicle, or a lightpost. Anyway, just an observation. I wonder what the forensics report actually said? It's not really important, I guess. Dead is dead.

I also wonder about the quality of ZD's legal representation. The Taipei Times states that his lawyer, Billy Chen (陳達成) once received a one year suspension for practising law without a licence. That doesn't sound too professional to me.
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Re: ZAIN DEAN CONVICTED KILLER ON THE LAM

Postby BLACKCRUSADER » Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:06 pm

MAOMAN wrote:DEAD IS DEAD.

I don't doubt that that Huang died of a broken neck, and how terrible that must have been, but it makes it sound like the car broke his neck. In my experience, fatal injuries are usually cause by damage incurred after the rider has come of his bike, not from the impact itself.


Your experiences? Really? And what experiences do you have about a person on a bike being hit from behind or from the side by a car? Have you been out there killing people in such a manner to find out how Mr Hung had his neck snapped? It's called whiplash and being impacted by a much faster heavier vehicle from behind could have caused the neck to be snapped as it was. Well sad to say that several professional riders have been killed including world champions in the Moto GP and other series in the last few years but yes its not regular.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daijiro_Kato

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/others ... aysia.html

Marco was hit from behind by other riders pretty tragic and as you may know I am a big Moto GP fan as I used to race bikes myself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShZFDnPTyVY Video if you care to watch slow motion

Marco Simoncelli's death is the first in the premier class since another Honda rider, Daijiro Kato, was killed at the 2003 Japanese Grand Prix.

Shoya Tomizawa also died in a similar crash to Simoncelli in Moto2 last year.
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Re: ZAIN DEAN CONVICTED KILLER ON THE LAM

Postby JIMIPRESLEY » Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:16 pm

I tried to encourage him to stfu on another sites, but was flamed and reprimanded for doing so. The Night of the Long Knives demands its pound of flesh, I suppose

To the cunt who runs this site, your loyalty to the integrity of your adopted "country" is surely to be respected. However, your sycophantry is not. I, along with many others, believe Zain Dean to innocent and a victim of an endemic, inherently corrupt system. As we can all see, a bloke died. Your constant, emotive references to this tragedy can be construed as noble, or affected. Whatever. I don't know the poor soul. What I do know, however, is that Zain Dean has been fucked in the ass by an incompetent legal system. Now, you just carry on expressing your love for Taiwan, respective of the collateral damage it's antiquated, conservative, corrupt legal mechanisms engender. May the Mahjong table be filled with quanxi when next you gun bei with your noble brethren.
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